Interview With Laura Dern
This episode is a transition for many of Amy's relationships with the other characters. Is she finally settling in to her new role at Abaddon?
I want her to settle in and I think she's trying to. But I fear that part of the challenge in Amy's life is that her intentions aren't the same as anyone else's. No matter how hard she tries to push an agenda, even a very appropriate and hopeful one, the world pushes back. What she does with that is where things get interesting.
What's behind the disconnect between her intentions and how they're perceived?
I think it's a few things. She says what she means and is very outspoken, which are hard qualities for people who are in hiding to take. If you're trying to be forthright when you're dealing with a corporation, an addict, or a mother in denial, you do not have an easy road. What I love about Amy is that her greatest flaws might be her greatest gifts.
What might those be?
Her willingness to confront the truth. Her willingness to be authentic, despite what other people think. Being determined to make the world a better place. It could be really exhausting to come in contact with someone like that, but they could also be the ones who save our planet too.
By the show's standards, this was an action-packed episode. What stood out for you?
Jonathan Demme was very open to allowing the actors to explore the gray areas of relationships. There would be times when I would stick up for myself as Amy and people would have a hard time with it. Everybody's ready to throw Amy under the bus because they're used to how she might overreact, and so it was interesting to me playing this character, that once you've established yourself one way, it's hard to change. I found myself very defensive of Amy in this episode, particularly after the scene with Dougie on the dance floor.
In this episode, we see Tyler act on his long-simmering feelings for Amy. What does she think of him?
Tyler may be one of Amy's first true friends. Someone who is there for her even when it's uncomfortable for him Even if she doesn't have the same feelings for him that he has for her, she does care deeply for him. It'll be interesting to see how they support each other as the season goes on.
What about Krista?
She is not a true friend. Krista is Amy's friend as long as it's good for Krista. It's the polar opposite of her relationship with Tyler. I don't think she's mean-spirited or that she doesn't like Amy, it just comes from a place of fear. You can tell she did like Amy at one point, but it's just not useful for her now, and that comes from a fear of losing her gig in the current economy. I'm sure there a lot of people caught in those types of relationships in corporate America right now.
How would you characterize Amy's relationship with her mother, Helen?
Sadly, it might be typical for a lot of people. It's deeply shut down and confrontational only though passive aggression. The only way the mother can show her love is by trying to control and sometimes dismiss her daughter. We know that doesn't work. Perhaps the relationship will change, even if it doesn't change for Helen, Amy might be able to make it change herself by having more compassion for her mother.
How is it playing the role opposite your own mother, Diane Ladd?
I feel so lucky to have a mom who is not only an extraordinary actor, but someone who is game enough to not worry about our relationship versus what we play in movies or television. She has no ego about people thinking, "Oh, is this about them?" She is such a pure actress, and it is a very different relationship than the one we have. I think we can really explore it without too much of a personal trigger, but with a real understanding for it.
Is there still genuine love between Levi and Amy, or are they just pining for an earlier, happier time in their lives?
I think it's both. As the season progresses, I think becomes clear that there's a deep love, and that they both know that whatever the history, they are each other's family. No matter what Levi does, even 10 years from now, Amy will still believe in him. She doesn't want to let go.
Why do you think the character resonates with so many people?
I think the economy certainly has allowed people to relate to this character. We like to think that as a 40-year-old woman, she should be in a stable job and can now focus on finding a partner and having a kid. Instead, she's lost her job, her apartment and her money. There may have been errors in her ways, but for many Americans it's the kind of thing that just happens to you. What poverty is in America has really changed. I think there are a lot of people who relate to the terror that comes from being in that position. For Amy and a lot of people, her most broken moments are the opportunity for her highest growth.