Interview With Iain Glen
Before Ser Barristan confronts him with the pardon, did Ser Jorah ever think his secret would catch up to him?
I think he thought it had gone silent when Ser Barristan turned up out of the blue in Astapor and saved Dany's life. There's that moment of recognition for Ser Jorah, "I know who he is." He gently fishes for what Ser Barristan knows, what he doesn't, whether he was part of the Small Council -- and believes he'll be all right.
So he thought his actions would outweigh the betrayal?
I think he believed the loyalty he's shown to Dany for so long would put him in good stead if anything did emerge. Particularly over last season, his advice has been very valuable to her. It was Jorah who thought she should get involved with the Unsullied; Ser Barristan didn't think it was a good idea. Jorah guided her and encouraged her not return to Westeros too early, to bide her time and learn how to rule, something she accepted.
But it wasn't enough.
I think she is so shocked by what happened, and in some way feels that Jorah was part of the sequence that lost her Khal Drogo and her baby. So emotionally, I think she finds it difficult to understand what he did.
Can you discuss the filming of that scene in the throne room and your delivery of Jorah's defense, "I have protected you, fought for you killed, for you, loved you."
It was a difficult scene to play. Dan [Weiss] and David [Benioff] are succinct writers so it was absolutely jam packed with subtext which I had to try and access from what was basically a two-and-a-half page scene. The directors put the onus on us to discover our way through scenes, but [director] Alex Graves brought some wonderful ideas, and that was one of them, to speak through each other during that part of scene.
It's especially cutting when Dany forbids Jorah to call her "khaleesi."
There is a great deal of heartbreak. It's about us separating, which is what's going to happen. Emilia [Clarke] and I went through a great deal together. We've been together for four seasons. We're the only two that have really been together from the start, and there were never that many characters in our storyline -- her brother, Khal Drogo, Ser Barristan and a few others -- but a lot of it is between the two of us. You use that in that scene.
At this point, Jorah has been exiled twice. Does he have a next move in mind yet?
I think he's bereft. That's his mood, riding off alone on his horse. But Ser Jorah's a survivor. He's lived away from home for many, many years. He's very good at adapting -- he adapted well to the Dothraki, and adopted the way they live and even an element of their dress. He knows how to incorporate himself into different worlds, which is part of the reason why he was so helpful to Dany.
If you were on trial, who would you want on your side?
Tyrion. He understands the way the world works. He's quick-witted and probably the smartest legal mind.
You're invited to a GOT wedding. Would you accept or decline?
I would accept. Something really, really wild is going down for sure and I'd like to witness it. But I'd make sure to bring my sword with me and hover in the shadows.
What would you name your sword?