"But what you have to try to do is look into the future and say, this is a path to ruin; this is what's happening to the whole planet."
Both President Obama and New York State Governor Cuomo are on the fence about fracking. What do you say to that?
This is one of those things which I think would give any politician pause, because the chemicals used in fracking will have those politicians' initials on them, in the ground. You know, there's a difference between politicians and leaders. Politicians read poll numbers and compromise. Leaders do what's morally right. I think the question these politicians are asking themselves now is: how can I survive as a politician, in this system, which means a lot to me, and still do the right thing? I think that's an unfortunate calculus, that's happening all over America. What we need is more leaders and less politicians.
The gas companies spend millions on TV ads, trying to convince the public that fracking is not only safe but good for the country, because it creates jobs. What effect does that have on public perception?
The more they put those ads on television, the more gas companies offer an excuse for people to look the other way. But what you have to try to do is look into the future and say, this is a path to ruin; this is what's happening to the whole planet. It's saying we're not going to pay attention to events like Hurricane Sandy. We're not going to look at the worst wildfires in history. We're not going to look at the fact that there are some island nations now that are in the process of evacuating, because of sea level rise.
What the oil and gas industry's PR is doing is trying to confuse people, and say don't look at these events as an indicator, probabilistically, scientifically, of what is to come; there's nothing to see here. Just enjoy your TV. Unfortunately we can be manipulated to not pay attention. And what we're trying to do is tell them, you've got to pay attention. And we're trying to do it in a way that says, we're sorry to have to give you this information! And we're going to give it to you in the most human way possible. Because it is the human impulse, to try to care for each other, I think.