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HBO What did you think when filmmaker Edet Belzberg approached you about this film? ?
Sergeant Clay Usie I was at work, and she called me directly at my desk, introduced herself and asked
me if I'd be interested. I was humbled and delighted she would ask me to do this,
but I told her it really wasn't my say whether I could or not. To be quiet honest - not
that I was indifferent to doing it - but I kind of blew it off like, "Oh, this is just another
form of congratulations," which I appreciated but didn't really see happening. And
then a couple of days later I got calls from my public-affairs officers, and I guess it
made its way all the way up the channels. The Army requested that I consider doing
it. Edet came down and shadowed me for a couple of days. We ultimately made a
decision and let my chain of command know that I thought that it would be a good
thing to support.
HBO With the politics surrounding the war, were you at all afraid you'd be characterized
badly in the film?
Sergeant Clay Usie I really didn't have any issues with the way they were gonna characterize me. I'm
one of those guys that ... I'm a chest-thumping freedom fighter. It's what I believe
in, and I'm a patriot. Those people that are most important to me in life - my family,
my personal friends and my brothers in arms in the military - they know that's what
I'm about and that I'm passionate about what I do for a living. So I had no issues
and told my chain of command, "You know, if I'm gonna be hindered to left-and-
right limits as to changing my personality for this film, then I don't want to do it." I
wanted to show who I am, and no one had any issues with that.
![]() HBO Did the cameras have any effect on how you did your job, whether helping or
hindering?
Sergeant Clay Usie It was kind of a catch-22, to be honest with you. I think sometimes it drew attention
to where it was, "Ok, who's this guy walking around in uniform and he's got a
camera following him?" I kind of tuned it out to be perfectly honest with you.
Recruiting duty is very difficult. There's nothing simple about it. Every day is a
challenge, and once you've met your requirements of that day, there's a whole new
day to face. So, I was like, "Hey I got a job to get done regardless of whether Edet's
here or not."
HBO What kinds of challenges do you face as a recruiter?
Sergeant Clay Usie There's a lot of things. You may meet an individual and they're fired up about doing
this, and then the very next day, some type of reality may set in - not on their own
but maybe a family member or a friend or a girlfriend will persuade them otherwise.
From a recruiting standpoint, it's kind of disheartening. There's so many things that
you can't control, but at the same time you have a mission to accomplish. Army
recruiters are soldiers. They're not salesmen, they're not marketers. We're soldiers
with a mission to find those Americans that want to serve voluntarily in defense of
our nation.
HBO Were you hoping that the film itself would serve as a type of recruitment tool?
Sergeant Clay Usie I hope it does. I hope it sheds light in both arenas. From a personal standpoint, I
think it's important to keep America informed of what's going on, and I think that the
strife of a typical day in the life of a military recruiter is never properly conveyed
because general consensus may think that it's a 9-to-5 job and it's easy duty - but
it's far from it. At the same time, what a gift that military recruiter is giving to his
nation by aggressively approaching challenges that people don't particularly want to
hear or think about or talk about. But yet it's necessary because freedom's not free.
![]() HBO Matt, one of the recruits from the film, is now working as a recruiter himself at your
former station in Louisiana - have you had much contact with him?
Sergeant Clay Usie He's actually been in for a little over three years now. He was a paratrooper in the
82nd Airborne and completed a combat rotation in Iraq, and he is now on recruiting
duty. I've talked to him on the phone. He stays in touch with me on a pretty regular
basis, and I still continue to mentor him. He called me to ask me what I thought
about him volunteering for it, just like when he talked to me as a civilian deciding to
join the Army. He's doing well.
HBO When you forge a personal relationship with these young people, how tough is it for
you to deal with recruits who've come home wounded or been killed in action?
Sergeant Clay Usie I haven't had any soldiers that I personally recruited that have fallen into that boat. If
and when it does happen, my heart'll bleed sorrow just like it would for any other
comrades that have been wounded or killed in action. It's an ultimate responsibility
to serve, and unfortunately when you go to war you can't promise anyone that you
are gonna come back. My personal belief is that I can base my faith in God and call
on my training and try to make sure that me and my men come home safely.
HBO Did your strength every falter where you thought, "Oh my God, what if something
happens to one of these kids? I'm going to feel personally responsible for it."
Sergeant Clay Usie A lot of recruiters probably have asked themselves that question and I have to
honestly say, yes, I've thought of that. But it's a personal decision for a young man
or a young woman to serve, and I can't hold myself accountable. If something
happens, my belief is that when it's your time to go, it's your time to go. I would
grieve the loss of that individual. But at the same time they were doing what they
volunteered to do, and they were honored to do it. I would not undermine their
commitment by allowing my strength to falter. If anything, I'd find strength and
resolve in continuing to fight harder to preserve their memory and to ensure that
their actions were not done in vain.
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'The Recruiter' Curriculum and Teacher's Guide
What are some of the factors that influence the decision to enlist? How does one's personal circumstance come into play? The Recruiter Curriculum and Teacher's Guide offers resources and information for teachers and students seeking answers to these questions. |
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