HBO
When did you first hear the story of Schapelle Corby being imprisoned for
smuggling marijuana into Bali?
Janine Hosking
I heard about Schapelle's story in the newspaper. She hadn't received that much
press at that time, but there was some suggestion that there was a problem with
airport security and perhaps marijuana had been placed in her bag and she'd been
framed. I made contact with her Indonesian legal team and said that I would be
interested in making a behind the scenes documentary. And they said to come over
to Bali. I think everyone, including the family and Schapelle herself, wanted a
record of what had occurred.
HBO
What was your first meeting with her like, when you visited her in jail?
Janine Hosking
The first meeting was fairly tense, but I think she's a very likeable person. She was
very welcoming when we turned up. But really she wasn't at all focused on whether
we were filming or not. She was actually talking to some of her advisors about the
next day that she had coming up and the testimony that she would give. But I think
I was tense because of the prison atmosphere itself. It's fairly confronting when you
go in there. You are in a Third World prison. You immediately are drawn to many of
the foreign faces that are in there, and you learn that many of them are on drug
charges from around the world. But I think the first thing is you go, "Oh my
goodness. There's no freedom here."
HBO
Did the government or prison attempt to block your access?
Janine Hosking
No, but certainly most or all of the filming in the jail was undercover, so I guess if I'd
asked for permission I probably wouldn't have got it. Basically we had a very small
camera. Naively I actually went in with a normal size PD170 the first day with a
boom. I just put it in my handbag, and the security at that time didn't have any
screening process. You come into the jail and they might just take your name down,
but they didn't actually look in my bag, and that's where I had the camera. But we
had to be very careful when we were actually putting the camera up to film. We
didn't want any repercussions for Schapelle if we were discovered, so there were
many days that I would go into the jail and we just wouldn't bring the camera out at
all. But I believe now it would be absolutely impossible to do any filming because
the security at the prison has increased markedly since we were going in.
HBO
How difficult was it to tell the stories unfolding in both Australia and Bali
simultaneously?
Janine Hosking
We filmed off and on for nearly two years. Sometimes we would stay for a couple of
months in Bali and really concentrate on trying to get as much material with
Schapelle as possible. Particularly when the trial was unfolding, I didn't come back
to Australia at all for nearly three months. It's a long drawn out period but you're
only getting one court day per week.
HBO
With so many agendas at work in this story, was there anything throughout the
filming that threatened to derail it?
Janine Hosking
Actually when I look at it, it was a fairly smooth process, but when you're looking at
the case you can't just blindly go, "Okay, I'm going to take everything that everyone
tells me on face value." There's a scene in the film where we go and interview
Schapelle's father's neighbor, and I think the family may have been uncomfortable
about that because the neighbor at that time was growing marijuana. But there had
been rumors circulating everywhere about that, and I felt compelled as a filmmaker
to at least go and talk to that neighbor and then allow people that are watching the
documentary to make up their own minds about that sort of circumstantial
evidence.
HBO
Why do you think people, particularly Australians, were so interested in Schapelle?
Janine Hosking
Look, she's young, she's attractive, she doesn't fit the profile of what people think a
drug courier looks like and sounds like. She could be anyone's sister or the girl next
door. And I think she was portrayed like that in the media. In court she showed a lot
of dignity. And I think she's telegenic. You know, the cameras love Schapelle. And
it's such an awful dramatic story that it just captured everyone's imagination. So as
her trial continued, every day people would be discussing, "Did she do it?" And that
huge amount of marijuana, most people could not conceive that anyone would
even think of taking it over to a death penalty country.
HBO
You show a lot of the media circus surrounding the trial. How did it feel to be there
amidst all of that when you're holding a camera yourself?
Janine Hosking
Yeah I know. It's difficult because we were definitely filming ourselves. A lot of the
time we've tried to shoot in a wider sense, so that you can see the media as
opposed to us being in the middle of the actual scrum. Some of the Indonesian
camera crews were really very tenacious and did not allow any breathing room for
Schapelle when she would come into the court. So you are a part of it and yet
you're also sitting in judgment of the media. So it's a difficult situation. You
obviously want to get the best coverage you can possible, but you try and think of it
in a different way than the news teams. And because I was regularly talking to
Schapelle, I found it sort of difficult that she was just this sort of normal girl that we
would talk to in the jail and then suddenly you're seeing her on the TV and it's
almost like she's this media star. So to equate the two people, this very ordinary girl
in a jail to this sort of semi-celebrity was unusual and strange.
HBO
Did your personal feelings of whether she was innocent of guilty shift throughout
the process?
Janine Hosking
I get asked that a lot, and I like to leave it up to people to make their own decisions
about it after watching the film. I don't want to cloud people's view. I will say that I
was compelled to make the film in the beginning because I was intrigued by this
horrible, sort of your worst nightmare, situation of an innocent person trapped.
However I've always kept a very open mind about it because I think if you cross
over that line, going into crusader mode, you can lose a sense of the truth. I know
what I want to believe, and you want to believe when you're sitting down that
everyone's telling you the truth because it should be a two-way street. I think not
only should the filmmaker be as ethical as possible but also the people you're
interviewing, I think, should do their utmost to tell you the truth. But I guess in
Schapelle's case there's a lot at stake. So in my own mind, I'd prefer perhaps not to
go down the path of her innocence or guilt, but to say, "Look, we've filmed her
journey, her experience, during this quite horrific time for her."